Clever Podcast: Ep. 139 Clever Extra – Light. Space. Emotion.

02.16.21 | By
Clever Podcast: Ep. 139 Clever Extra – Light. Space. Emotion.

Lighting design plays an enormous role in supporting mood, feelings, perceptions and even human connection and romance. In this time when we have been suffering the side effects caused by extreme deprivation of social interaction and human connection, we’re excited to present this important conversation about how lighting can be designed to soothe our minds, uplift our spirits and help us find clarity, depth and meaning in our day, in our surroundings, in ourselves. Back in October 2020, during WantedDesign Manhattan and ICFF’s CLOSEUP event, Clever’s Amy Devers talked to Drew Stuart, Field Director and Partner at multi-disciplinary architecture and design studio, INC, and Cecilia Ramos, Senior Director – Architectural Market for Lutron Electronics. The conversation has been edited into a podcast episode—have a listen:

CLOSEUP Live event

The conversation was supported by Lutron. For more information on Lutron, visit

The second edition of CLOSEUP is May 16-18, 2021. To learn more head to

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Jaime Derringer, Founder + Executive Editor of Design Milk, is a Jersey girl living in SoCal. She dreams about funky, artistic jewelry + having enough free time to enjoy some of her favorite things—running, reading, making music, and drawing.